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No Gentlemen’s Club For Havertown

There will be no strip club planned for the Manoa Shopping Center.

 

From a post on a message board about Trader Joe’s to tweets or readers emailing the Haverford-Havertown Patch, rumors of a gentlemen’s club going into the Manoa Shopping Center have been spreading.

But you might want to keep those one-dollar bills.

“There is no gentlemen’s club coming to Havertown,” Assistant Township Manager Lori Hanlon-Widdop told Patch after the township commissioners’ meeting on Monday night.

She said that state law requires townships to set aside space for a possible strip club and that space would be an industrial park. An example of an industrial park in Havertown would be where the YMCA will be built (the former bubble gum factory) or Swiss Farms, both on Eagle Road.

But the Manoa Shopping Center is not an industrial park, so even if there was a gentlemen’s club coming into Havertown, it could not set up shop in the center, explained Hanlon-Widdop. 

"You can't prohibt (strip clubs) but you have to put them in a certain location," she said.

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MJP

3:46 pm on Wednesday, March 14, 2012

whew, thanks for getting to the bottom of this...

Jim

5:45 pm on Wednesday, March 14, 2012

The why MM CC AA was a good anogly, as to where to put a gentlemen's club. The gentlemens club would be better moneymaker for the property and home owner's of Haverford township, because, they would pay there taxes. A upscale Hotel, and a classy gentlemen's club, would be an excellent money maker, Visa Via, tax generator,the why is a no income, white elephant, joke,for the good taxpayer's, of Haverford township.I heard, the Why, is going, to get chopped. Bring on the show girls,show biz comes to H-town!!!

MJP

9:22 am on Thursday, March 15, 2012

Jim, how is it possible that you spell so many words wrong, or use such poor grammar? Obviously, you did not attend any HT schools.

Allow me to correct your myriad of errors:

"...good analogy..."
"...they would pay their taxes"
"...vis-a-vis, tax generator..." plus you used the phrase incorrectly

Also, please explain exactly how the YMCA will be a white elephant for the township?

Havertown Bob

9:34 am on Thursday, March 15, 2012

I think the YMCA will be a " white elephant " for the township. To my understanding, they will pay no taxes, will cause a traffic headache and be un-affordable for senior citizens on a fixed income. I retired a few years ago and we are now living on yesterdays income and todays prices. I have trouble paying my taxes and couldn't afford the " dues " for the YMCA. Had the township put in a pool, I could have gone there for very little or no cost. Just my $.02.

Jim

9:49 am on Thursday, March 15, 2012

John it's amazing you got the meaning,of what I said. You should be in education, instead of a Havertown Hypocrite,your really good at it. Maybe at the next Haverford township day you could wave a flag that say's "my name is John Key and I am a Hypocrite .The why mm. cc.aa. is a white elephant because it sticks out in a crowd.The crowd,is the majority,of the taxpayers in Haverford Township. The why mm,cc. Aa. has been giving an exemption on there taxes. John I liked how you used the word myriad in your sentence,did they teach you that word at the police academy or did you just look it up.

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MJP

10:16 am on Friday, March 16, 2012

Jim, my question to you is, how much tax revenue will be lost due to this exemption?

To answer your question, I learned the word "myriad" during my taser training, which I am sure you are familiar with.

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Nick

10:40 pm on Sunday, March 18, 2012

The only thing the cops learn at the police academy is how to lie under oath.

Jim

11:58 am on Thursday, March 15, 2012

Will the taxpayer's of Haverford, have to pay to have the Why mm. cc.AA demolished,when it goes belly up? The babybommer's are retiring, and they won't be able to afford the why's dues and there the tax increases. John Key, you have such a high intellect, that you, should be able to dedouche, that senior citizens social security and medicaid have been reduce, and is under attack,by D.B, such as, congressman Patrick Meehan. The board of commissioner's in Haverford Township also tried to swindle the Bubble gum factory, off of, the Fenimore family,who by the way, was one of the biggest tax generator in Haverford Township ever.The township invoked the eminent domain law and got there a-- whiped. They tried to do the old Havertown Hustle on the Fenimore's and got beat. Now, the good Taxpayer's of Haverford Township, has to pay 4.5 million dollars, because these Morons don't learn from there same mistakes. They condemmed a property, after D.D.B. signs the court order,than the flunky, nails, to the property owners door.It goes to the K.court in Haverford,they lose, the owner appeals to Media and wins. These bums keep losing and we keep paying!

Sam Smith

6:25 pm on Thursday, March 15, 2012

Jim, I haven't been following so did the Township lose??

Jim

3:39 pm on Friday, March 16, 2012

John, thank you for revealing to me, that your a fraud, and a cop, who thinks just because he's a cop,gives him the right to become dogmatic on issues he knows nothing about,because your still wet behind the ears. You are a fool,because you can't put two brain cell's together and talk about,the Why MM CC AA free ride,so you try to change the subject because your head is more bone then brain. You don't have the know how .Your all talk and no action, cop!

bigben

6:50 am on Saturday, March 17, 2012

The topic was about strip clubs and sites for them. Nobody comes to Havertown for nuthin so forget about fancy ideas of tourist attractions like hotels and least of all strip clubs and pole dancers. The only bidness that will thrive here are those that serve the community not outaiders

bigben

6:50 am on Saturday, March 17, 2012

The topic was about strip clubs and sites for them. Nobody comes to Havertown for nuthin so forget about fancy ideas of tourist attractions like hotels and least of all strip clubs and pole dancers. The only bidness that will thrive here are those that serve the community not outsiders

Jim

10:40 am on Saturday, March 17, 2012

And that's the problem.People in Haverford Township are not willing to grow, They think, they are the only township that has the answers to there problems.So far,they have depended on there own board of commisssioners to help with land and tax relief and it has been a embarassing disaster each and every time.The board of commissioner's are going to barrow 5 million dollars to pay for more things.This is just after a tax increase.Ben I am not a outsider.Ben you better wake up and smell the coffee,what bind us together, will not work!

Nick

10:50 pm on Sunday, March 18, 2012

Havertown has enough lowlifes and sleazeballs, just look at the "Megan's Law" website, there's a disturbingly high number of sex offenders living in Haverford Township, we don't need Upper Darby's and Lansdowne's scumbags coming here in droves, drooling tongues out and discharging bodily fluids in the men's room, we get enough of that just from the trashmen in this town.

MJP

8:49 am on Monday, March 19, 2012

Poor Jim, you simply are unable to answer my questions, so you attempt to use words you don't understand, like dogma.

"Jim, my question to you is, how much tax revenue will be lost due to this exemption?"

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George Jones III

9:31 am on Monday, March 19, 2012

If the assessment is $900,000 ( that would be low in my opinion ). The township would lose about $9,500 school district about $20,000 and the county about $4,500. Not to mention the additional police and EMS involvement that would be needed. Workout centers are notorius for locker thefts, parking lot thefts, as well as EMS calls for heart problems and back injuries.

Joe L.

3:09 pm on Monday, March 19, 2012

Just to follow up on George's thought...If you assume a cost of approximately $100 PSF to construct the proposed 75,000 SF facility, you are looking at a value of $7,500,000 on a replacement cost basis. If you assume that this replacement cost is the same as market value (which is not typical) and apply the DELCO common level ratio of 67.5, you would arrive an assessed value of $5,062,500. Based on this estimated assessed value, below are the approximate lost tax revenues:
Haverford TWP: $33,863 (based on the current rate of 6.689 mills)
Haverford SD: $131,731 (based on the current rate of 26.0209 mills)
Delaware Co: $26,831 (based on the current rate of 5.30 mills)

Jim

7:51 pm on Monday, March 19, 2012

Thanks Joe and George, for answering John Key's question,he has a hard time with everthing,especially math problems,you see they don't teach math at the police academy to Malcontent's and D.B.

MJP

1:05 pm on Tuesday, March 20, 2012

30k per year seems right, let's face it, the only way "the gang of 9" knows how to increase tax revenue is to allow more single family homes to be built. Just look at the 9th ward and the new Manoa school, already overcrowded due to construction gone wild...

Jim

11:29 am on Wednesday, March 21, 2012

John Key, why don't you quit with your act, and keep your foot in your mouth,it stops you from playing the D.B. cop.

MerionManor

11:47 am on Wednesday, March 21, 2012

30K is just what the township will lose in taxes, let's not forget the 131K the school will lose, at a time when they are raising the residents tax bills even more than initially projected! And, of course, the county, who I think does a great job holding the line on taxes, will lose too! However, god forbid we put in a factory or any other industrialized tax generator at the future site of the "Y" (it kills me just to get the words out of my mouth), the people who built/bought houses behind an existing factory on Rittenhouse Cir. might get upset, now where's the logic in that!?

MJP

3:05 pm on Wednesday, March 21, 2012

Jim, it is obvious you are still feeling the effects of the taser you received while drinking and driving. Why don't you relax and have a few drinks, but be sure to stay off the road...this time.

Jim

5:11 pm on Wednesday, March 21, 2012

John Key, I don't drink, and if you look at Healy's blood test, the results that came back, were O for Alcohol. So once again, your full of lies. I don't need a few drinks to relax ,I don't drink, and I drive, as much as I want. One thing I do know, you are in the wrong line of work .Every time you speak,another lie comes out. Cops are sworn to uphold the law,not break it, D.B. You sound like a cop that's willing to break it, most liar's do, that is, lie and break the law, D.B., to win there case!

MJP

8:44 am on Thursday, March 22, 2012

Two questions, what have I lied about, and how do you know what the blood test contained?

Jim

9:29 am on Thursday, March 22, 2012

First lie, was that there was no valet parking at the lampligher tavern on July 6 2007.Second lie that Mr. Healy was drinking on July 6 2007. Your a B.S--- cop who needs to be removed from the force right now,before he falsifies a police report,or commit's perjury on the witness stand.The blood test is a public record,D.B.

MJP

1:27 pm on Thursday, March 22, 2012

Dude, seriously, you expect me to believe a dump like the Lamplighter has valet parking? Nice try.

Show me evidence that you were not drinking on Friday July 6th 2007, show me the blood test...

MJP

4:15 pm on Thursday, March 22, 2012

Wow, resorting to threats, and lies, in addition to your inability to grasp the correct spelling of one syllable words.

I will ask Jack next time I see him.

Jim

4:32 pm on Thursday, March 22, 2012

Your Inablity to tell the truth is the issue here D.B cop.Go and ask Jack and he will confirm your a liar and should be fired from the Police department in Haverford township.My spelling and grammer,far outweigh your every lie that you spew out of your lying mouth.

MJP

10:53 am on Monday, March 26, 2012

Jim, for once, I agree with you. Your "spelling and grammer" do indeed outweigh my comments. Thank you for finally admitting that point, I truly appreciate it and I hope you have a great week!

Jim

11:20 am on Monday, March 26, 2012

Your a big phony,John. Each and everytime you post a comment,it's just another attack on something that's doesn't pertain to the fact that your a lair.Did you talk to the owner of the lamplighter? That was what you said you were going to do? Or did you chicken out cop.I and everybody else got your number.Your a lying coward.Did Shields teach you how to lie and doctor an affidavit of probable cause. When you ask Jack Quinn if there was a valet parking lot attendent working on July 6 2007,also ask him what he saw while he was looking out of his window,when Shields said Healy came around the open door of the patrol car and pushed Shields in the middle of Darby road.Thats another lie, Shields testified to. That perjury John, and you are cut from the same dirty cop garment, Shield's is. A dirty S--t house rag is worth more then the badge and uniform you and Shields where.

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MerionManor

12:35 pm on Monday, March 26, 2012

John, I used to get myself all excited over Jim's posts, but that's all he really wants from us. I have gone to the lamplighter for years and I really like the place, it just has that hometown feel. I know Jack and Binney well, would they say there was valet parking there that night? I'm not sure and honest I don't care; however it's so irrelevant as the perpetrator shown in the video should have never operated his vehicle for such a long period of time after the sirens sounded. That is he should have obeyed the law and pulled over his vehicle prior to arriving at the Lamplighter. The question here really has nothing to do with the Lamplighter or Valet Parking. The mere fact that you continue to hinge the argument on these facts, to me, is indicative of the fact that you can't base it on and real merrit.

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MJP

1:26 pm on Tuesday, March 27, 2012

MM, I don't get excited, I simply find Jim's posts hilarious. But, I ought to stop pushing his buttons because I do agree the commissioners et al. have made some bone head mistakes over the years.

Jim

1:28 pm on Monday, March 26, 2012

Mr.Healy did obey the law,and pulled his car over in a safe spot.That part of Darby road has no shoulder and a gas station is not a safe spot.The question here is not where Mr Healy pulled over, the question is weather Jack Quinn had a velet parking lot attendent on July 6 2007,The parking lot attendent saw Shields assault Mr Healy with tazer not Mr Healy assault Shields. Shield's perjures himself when he say's on his affidavit of probable cause that Mr.Healy assualted him. Here is what Shields says when he lies in federal court and perjures himself. "The intitial threat was when he pushed me and tried to knocked me off my feet". Merion Manor since your such a stand up fellow and are fast freinds with Mr.Quinn,why don't you ask him instead of commenting of something you know nothing about. The valet parking lot attendtent will swear Mr Healy never touched one hair on the cops head.Shield's lied about the "initial threat" the push.You see Merion Manor he had to lie in order to use his taser on Mr.Healy. The coward cop shot him in the back, just like the perjurer that he is.

Fred

7:36 pm on Monday, March 26, 2012

Things that are found on the internet that make things clear. Why would an innocent person plead guilty if they were so right, I know if I was innocent I would fight the case all the way to the end of the earth. What do you think Jim?

Delaware County Court of Common Pleas
Court Summary
Healy, James
Havertown, PA 19083
DOB: /1956
Race:Caucasian
Hair:
Eyes:
Sex:Male
Adjudicated
Delaware
CP-23-CR-0005897-2007 Proc Status: Awaiting Sentencing DC No: OTN:L3608360
Arrest Dt: Trial Dt: Legacy No:
Last Action: Trial Last Action Date: 08/25/2008 Last Action Room: Courtroom 12
Disp Date: 08/28/2008 Disp Judge: Mallon, Gregory M.
Seq No Statute Grade Description Disposition

DUI: Controlled Substance -Impaired Ability - 2nd Offense-3802- M1 Guilty Plea
§ 5104 M2 Resist Arrest/Other Law Enforce- Guilty Plea
§ 1543 S Guilty Plea

Jim

12:22 am on Tuesday, March 27, 2012

The goverment and Judge Mallon where going to try Mr Healy on Aggravated Assault on a police officer if he didn't plead guilty to the lesser charges which you probably know fred is a felony.Mr Healy went to court 6 times to get the D.A. to hand over the video and she had an excuse evertime as to why it was not ready.The first Judge, Ann Osbourne told the ADA is she didn't have the video at the next cout appearence she was going to throw it out.The next time Mr.Healy got a new Judge Greg Mallon. Who ask Miss Magee if she had the tape and she said it was still in the process of being converted from a V.H.S. to a D.V.D. She's a lair just like the cop Shield's and his A.H.Buddy John Keys. Mr Healy told the truth the entire time unlike the perjurer William F. Shields.Fred are you a cop or just a person who wants the truth? Because if your a cop your defending a felon and a liar.

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Fred

7:28 pm on Tuesday, March 27, 2012

No cop, regular resident like you. I am just seeking the truth, the truth shall set you free. It seems that you know every detail about the arrest and court hearings like you were involved. I think your opinion would be validated if you were involved or part of the arrest. It is alright if you were it would explain everything. You say that Shields and all cops are liars but you throw out those accusations like you have a grudge. Why the venom if you weren't involved?

Jim

2:43 pm on Tuesday, March 27, 2012

John you are not pushing my buttons.Your a lying coward cop! Did you verify the valet parking lot person that was working on July 6 2007. You said you were going ask Jack Quinn, if he had valet parking person on that friday night.What did he say.How about Mr Healy's B.AC. That was your other slanderous accusation. That Mr. Healy was drinking and was pulled over for drinking and driving.You think Mr healy is hilarious,is just your way of ducking the truth.That your a lying cop,that would perjure himself in a court of law.Just like your best buddy Bill Shields.Don't get caught John,they don't like cops upstate. Unless you dress up in skirt and a nice blond wig and a pair of nice red sexy pumps. You be a big hit on your cell block. People like you John like to dress up,it makes them fell like a new man!

Jim

9:50 pm on Tuesday, March 27, 2012

I am not making accusation's fred. I have excess to the proof. And I read the Blood test and it came back negative for Alcohol.Thats Shields fist lie on his Affidavit of probable cause.Shields swore on his affidavit, that Mr healy had acohol on his breath. Shields whole case is a complete lie.He had to lie.This crum of a cop had to Justify his aggressive behavior,by lying when he swears on his affidavit, and in open court, that Mr Healy put both hands on his chest and pushed him backwards,in the middle of Darby Rd. Fred, listen to the video, if healy pushed Shields in the chest you would clearly hear it on the video. You can hear Shields breathing in the very begining of the video. The microphone is attached to Shields shirt pocket, which is located on Shield's chest. If Healy pushed this cop, like this liar Shield's swears to ,it would have sounded like a bomb going off,right on the video. Listen to the video fred. When Shield's and healy are off camera,thats when Shield's add's the push to his affidavit. He watches the video before he fills out his affidavit of probable cause, so he knows, where to add the push.How convenient for him, thats the B.S. push,is off camera.The only thing thats true on Shield's affidavit of probable cause, is his signiture,which isn't worth a S--- ! .Shield's took the felony off of himself and pined it on Mr Healy. Shield's made a big mistake fred, when he lied under oath,now it's on record.

MJP

1:59 pm on Wednesday, March 28, 2012

You are right Jim, I stand corrected, Healy was not drunk, he was stoned and driving on a suspended license. He should not have been driving and obviously was too high from smoking pot all day to remember the events of the day in question.

Jim

3:12 pm on Wednesday, March 28, 2012

You keep defending a cop,John, who lied and said healy had Alcohol on his breath,and lied when he said that healy pushed him.You lied John,when you said there was no valet parking lot attentent. Is it standard Practice at the H.TPD. to lie,doctor affidavit of probable cause,falsify police reports, tamper with evidence,commit perjury,assualt people without cause. Is that what takes place when they train recruits of H.T.P.D. or is it just you and your mentor,officer Shield's.

MJP

4:22 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

Well, Healy would not have gotten into this mess if he had stayed off the road while he was high as a kite, smoking pot and driving on a suspended license.

He was driving around and rolling joints on 4th of July, luckily he did not kill anyone driving that wreck of a vehicle, blowing bong hits of reefer. He was all stoned up smoking a bowl of grass and wheeling around Havertown, not good.

Jim

5:55 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

December 2,.2010.Q. By Mr. DiDomenicis.Now, before this happened what took place off the video? As Mr. Healy walked back and came around beyond the camera range what was taking place? A.Shields. He ignored me six times that I told him to get back into his vehicle,screaming as loud as I could,motioning with my finger,he got both of his hand's he pushed me back.Luckily,I was able to maintain my balance.Then I grabbed the back of his shirt with I followed our force continuum ,and I tried to get him to the front of my vehicle so I could secure him. I took my taser out because I had just been assaulted.November 29.2010.Q.Mr Pilleggi.All right. Now at what point did you take you taser out?A. Shields After he assaulted me behind the drivers side,the drivers side front door of my police vehicle. Bingo!

Frank the Tank

7:00 pm on Thursday, March 29, 2012

Why not hash this all out at a gentleman's club over a couple pole dances?!

SassyOne

10:15 pm on Monday, April 2, 2012

this is NOT a gentleman's club. this is a whore house, and is not welcomed in Havertown, PERIOD! There are plenty of places like that within 30 minutes drive of HTown, keep it there and not here. Your asking for trouble!

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